Comments on: How to Read MTF Charts for Camera Lenses https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/ Photography and Camera News, Reviews, and Inspiration Thu, 08 Dec 2022 16:46:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: greenarcher02 https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71480 Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:02:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71480 In reply to Kyle.

But isn’t that lens actually really sharp in real life? And focuses close, too.

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By: Nimloth https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71309 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 00:56:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71309 In reply to Cynicaleye.

The fact that you don’t need something, doesn’t imply that it isn’t important to others. ;-)

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By: Nimloth https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71308 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 00:54:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71308 In reply to denneboom.

I’d like a chart with colour profile from UV to IR, certain data on distortions and aberrations. We all want different things, so it would be nice if the producers provided all of it, in a format that could be directly compared with the data of their competitors. :-)

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By: Nimloth https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71304 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 00:46:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71304 In reply to Kyle.

Yeah… And that’s why it’s cautioned that “[MTF charts] don’t take into account every aspect of a lens.” Which is to say things mildly, I guess. :-)

Edit: Actually, I’ve found the cheap zooms to be quite good for general picture taking, if you don’t need the low F-numbers. Need some fairly weird/nerdy requirements (that is, like those of people hanging around on photo sites) if the kit zooms aren’t good enough for most daily use, I’d say. (Confession: I sometime bring along the kit Nikon 18-50 or 18-140 zooms if I just want to go snapping, say on vacation.) ;-)

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By: Alan Klughammer https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71197 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:47:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71197 In reply to Grive.

I guess it could be if you defined Megapixel and discrete micro contrast. A soft lens can still record as much information (megapixels) but how it records that information matters.
For example a Nikon defocus lens records the same amount of information no matter how you adjust it, but at some settings, the information has a smoother transition of fine detail…

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By: Grive https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71192 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:11:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71192 In reply to Kyle.

Ah, yes. You’re right. I was looking at the OG 18-55. You have the VRII chart in there.

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By: Grive https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71191 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:08:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71191 In reply to Alan Klughammer.

Megapixel ratings for lenses would be a good proxy for sharpness, wouldn’t it? It’s a measure of how well it resolves detail.

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By: Alan Klughammer https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71186 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:20:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71186 In reply to denneboom.

Personally I don’t care for the megapixel rating for any of my lenses. I would rather know how sharp and how much distortion they have….

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By: Darksome https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71175 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:50:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71175 Pokud člověk fotit umí, vystačí si s čočkou z brýlí po babičce a pokud to neumí, nezachrání to ani technika za sto litrů.

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By: Michael H https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71144 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 07:48:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71144 Great read and very good explanation! Thanks!

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By: Kyle https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71131 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 06:03:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71131 In reply to Grive.

This is from Nikon’s website. And is the tele illustration at 55mm 5.6. From what I understand is that the lens is able to produce discernable images of black line patterns as described in the article at a rate of almost 100% of the time. Meaning it is high contrast and a very sharp lens. Which maybe it is under perfect lab conditions.

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By: Réjean Nantel https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71088 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:38:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71088 In reply to Cynicaleye.

Lucky that we have lens makers that knows how to read them (for we hypothetically could have less performing lens in the real world).

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By: a_eh https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71077 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:00:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71077 Cool write up. Good to know in any case. Thanks!

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By: Gr8DayfrScience https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71059 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 02:07:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71059 I have used them a lot as a lens designer, and never as a photographer…they are most relevant either when you wish to know how you are doing against the diffraction limit, or when you care about resolution in a quantitive sense.

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By: Grive https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71039 Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:48:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71039 In reply to Kyle.

Um, don’t knoe where you got that one. the Nikon website has some definitively more realistic charts, with the wide-end dropping to 0.3 wide open and the tele end dropping to 0.7.

Also, that MTF chart, as far as I understand, only means that the lens is very consistent across the sensor. Not that it’s perfect across it.

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By: Alan Klughammer https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71023 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:23:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71023 In reply to Cynicaleye.

It is just another piece of info. Use it or not.
I would not use it as my sole decision maker, but it helps to separate two otherwise similar lenses if that is what you want…

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By: denneboom https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-71010 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:42:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-71010 Id prefer to see megapixel ratings over MTF, but still MTF chars can be useful to spot field curvature and agmatism.

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By: Kyle https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-70995 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:00:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-70995 In reply to Kyle.

No takers?
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II

Not sure how much I trust manufacturers MTF

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By: Kyle https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-70985 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:29:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-70985 Guess the lens…

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By: ninpou_kobanashi https://petapixel.com/how-to-read-mtf-charts/#comment-70982 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:22:00 +0000 http://petapixel.com/?p=170730#comment-70982 In reply to Cynicaleye.

I can drive a car real well, but can’t change my oil?

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